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shiftey wrote:Examples of what are common things the player should know are:

• battery/plug puzzles
• moving an object that requires more than one person
• 2 person switches/buttons
• using each other to reach high places
• the crane puzzle

Ny wrote:

• ammo window
• points transfer
• medic callout (would make a good scene if the mapper damages the player and assigns the call out to get the npc to heal the player)
• warning callout
• player locator
• merchant buying system
• cash pickups
• how to use the healer (players and npcs)

Axel_m3sh wrote:Jumpcrouch/crouchjump: Press the jump key then press and hold crouch key immediately after. Nothin' to it.

RocketRunner wrote:Yeah, I suppose some basic movement stuff should be implemented.

Would this tutorial be accessed from the main menu?

1. Basic movement 1 (WASD, mouse look and Use) *Start spawnpoint*.
2. Basic movement 2 (jump, crouch, jump crouch, swim and ladders).
3. Basic co-op 1 (2 person button, using each other to reach high places, moving an object that requires more than one person).
4. Basic co-op 2 (Crane, battery puzzle, player locator, cash pickups).
5. Basic co-op 3 (Flashlight, warning and medic callout, use of the healer).
6. Final track course room (ammo window, points transfer, merchants, combat, lives gameplay system). *At the end, a teleport makes go the players to the hall*.
7. Hall (Decorate it like it was the OC forum/Lobby, with photos and characters and all) *Give the options of repeating again the training or teleport them to an actual combat somewhere*.
8. Battlefield (real combat, co-op puzzles, use of jeeps).

Axel_m3sh wrote:Jumpcrouch/crouchjump: Press the jump key then press and hold crouch key immediately after. Nothin' to it.

• Crouch jumping through pipes, similar to hl1 obstacle course,

• crouching under pipes,

• avoiding poison smoke / fire?? ,

• underwater lesson,

• Oh most importantly most people don't know that you can press e on hl2 to ladders to attach and detach from them.

• Shooting range for all the guns, but you are not required to use all of them to continue, it will force you to use at least 2 - 3 then the rest is optional.

• Adding on to the shooting range thing, have situational ways of testing your weapon out, for example jumping and shooting, being on a ladder and shooting, shooting underwater, show the player how all of these things affect your recoil, and how disorienting it is.

• Put at least one physics puzzle in

• Demonstrate the 2 person rotating wheel, to show players that you sometimes need two player instead of one to continue, although I'm not sure how exactly you could do it if you are alone, maybe an npc on the other side to just show you need another person?

Gary wrote:This is single player right? And we could use props/NPCs to act as if other is another player there.

A simple map like this I could probably help out with mapping/IO if you need. I don't know what your level of mapping skills is at Maestro. I never released a map or mod but I know a decent amount. Usually I'm good at the technical level but shit at the design level.

As for where you start skill wise. You could make two maps; one with basic movement that you'd see in hl2/mods. And after completion it would load the second map, teaching OC specific mechanics. Though, you could have a hallway near the first map start that lets you bypass basic training, in case the player already knows how to climb ladders and stuff.

Maestro Fénix wrote: Well, I thought it as a multiplayer because:

1: Is not official, so it can´t appear as an extra option in the main menu like someone suggested, so the people only we will play it on the servers (no one is going to download a SP map for a co-op mod).

Maestro Fénix wrote: 2: Some puzzles needs cooperation of another players. NPCs could fake this, but some of them, like the crane, or the moving objects with two people, it wouldn´t look good. (And at some aspects like the player indicators or indirect use of the healer, I don´t know I could do it).